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Post by nuka on Jun 29, 2008 16:29:12 GMT -5
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Post by rourke on Jun 29, 2008 16:52:24 GMT -5
yep I agree and it's alot more tragic, which is why it's my favorite version(what can I say, I like torturing my favorite characters for some odd reason)
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Post by Pocahontas on Jun 29, 2008 17:20:08 GMT -5
Seening this I'm surprised by the choice they made. This would have been alot more powerful than the version in the film. It would have shown Zira actually starting to understand her children. But it probably felt like they were hitting the audience over the head with the sympathy card.
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Post by nuka on Jun 29, 2008 17:25:47 GMT -5
xP I agree with you, Rourke. I'm creepy and I like angst. xP
And yeah, I can kind of see from that point of view, but I really do wish they would have kept this version, though. :/
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Post by ~*Queen Grimhilde*~ on Jul 1, 2008 14:33:08 GMT -5
Oh my god....I saw Ziras ending that was cut...I mean...i can now honestly say that two things literally scared me 1. Beauty and the Beasts animation in some parts 2. Ziras Suicide...just the way she said, "No......never" and the animation that was used really showed me how sick and twisted Zira actually was....as for Nukas death very tragic...I honestly think that had they used those two in the movie...it would've scarred another generation of children...not that I was scarred mind you, from the first one, I actually smiled when Scar Killed Mufasa, but it would've had such an impact and Disney Fans of yore would be happy because Disney wouldn't be so scared to touch on certain topics...like tragedy and suicide.
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Post by Zira on Aug 19, 2008 2:21:43 GMT -5
I personally don't think they should have taken it out. It gives both characters more depth. This cut of Zira is very powerful and haunting;; uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HoctlRyGdf8For obvious reasons they had to leave it out, but I think the ending of TLK2 is a little weak. Zira would be strong enough to pull herself up that cliff, with Kiara's help. |
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Post by smile on Sept 3, 2008 13:03:12 GMT -5
They probably cut it because of time constraints. I agree with just about everything that everyone else said.
Poor Nuka. D=
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Post by sally on Sept 5, 2008 15:22:48 GMT -5
Had they kept Nuka's line, it would have explained further why Zira's anger and desire for revenge was kicked into high gear. She finally realizes that all Nuka ever wanted was for Zira to notice him and be proud. She couldn't deal with the feeling of letting her son down, so she focused even more hatred on Simba, who she also blamed for Kovu's betrayal.
That said, it could be the reason the line was cut. There was too much humanizing and sympathy for Zira when she realized that she'd been a bad mother.
As for her suicide, I think that it would have made a lot more sense other than her just slipping, but I gotta admit, I'm 23 years old, and that was just a black and white sketch, but the tone in Zira's voice and the look in her eyes sent chills up my spine. It was just way too dark for a Disney film.
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