Post by ladytremaine on Jan 23, 2009 15:40:16 GMT -5
Lady Tremaine: The capability to manipulate your surroundings, and to have brains for evil schemes... to control your victims completely.... is the greatest gift a villain can have. And... of course... leave your emotions out of it. Every thing you do, you do out of cruelty. Heartlessly and without mercy.
Take notes from the one true villain, Frollo. I think that although he isn't the most powerful, nor does he seem the most sinister when we disregard the Hellfire sequence; he happens to be the most evilest thing in the world because of how unaware he is of his devilish nature.
Lady Tremaine: *Ice cold stare at Clopin, before speaking to him with each word filled with frost*:
"And what am I, darling? Mickey Mouse?"
;D ;D ;D
Clopin: Compared to your brother? Naturally. He has whipped us sensless, murdered innocent people, and burned down a whole city for my daughter.
You only tried to ruin a little girl's dreams. XD I've nothing to fear of you. Now come, Tremaine. I have a very nice rope to wrap around your long, 'beautiful' neck with. -Dangles it over her sinisterly-
Post by ~~Ursula~~ on Jan 27, 2009 17:39:03 GMT -5
Frollo, yes maybe a very wicked villain, but look at the Queen, who would go so far as she did to be the best looker in the land?...Not many villains I know would go so batty that they have to disguise themselves to try and kill the one person standing in the way of her beauty...
Post by guardianlatos on Jan 27, 2009 18:04:13 GMT -5
True the Queen is down right evil for very little reason but went really far, Maleficent is the same way, she proclaims to be evil, but it was all about not being invited. Also a good villain, a lot of the time makes you want to see what would happen if they won instead of the hero. Good examples are, Ursula, and Hades to name just two... I'm to lazy to list more. Also I know Gaston kinda sucks at being a villain, he and beast switch places over the course of the movie, also who ever heard of a villain who had hat many friends and admirers willingly?
Post by Jane Porter on Jan 29, 2009 9:04:56 GMT -5
Maybe I'll add my voice to the matter ...
Well, villainy has different levels. Of course, there's true evil, like Queen Grimhilde, Frollo, Scar, Rourke, etc. They are all guilty of actions such as; trying to kill an innocent girl just because of her beauty, burning down an entire city and wrongly accusing their people just for one gypsy, plotting to kill their own brother and his son for a royal title, and attempting to kill a civilization for money.
See what I'm getting at here? That is the top-level of villainy. But then, there's the less-threatening. Gaston and Jafar might fit that bill.
Of course, on Shan-Yu's page, Gaston looks more like a hero, but through the course of the film, shows his true colors - he tries to kill the Beast, claiming that he'll "kill the village", when in truth, the Beast had been there for years and hadn't done a thing. And of course, he tries to kill the Beast, just for a trophy wife, who won't agree to marry him anyway. Gaston was mainly in it, probably to become even more of a 'hero' to the town. So, as I see it, Gaston is a complex villain, who really just wants fame and glory.
Jafar has humorous qualities that kind of downplay his evil side. All he really wanted was for Jasmine to marry him. Yeah, he used hypnotism to do that, and eventually went fully mad with power, but from the beginning, he just wants riches.
Then, there's the totally un-evil. In my opinion, the most un-threatening "villain" would have to be: Bowler Hat Guy. All he wants to do is crush the dreams of an innocent boy. And his secret lair is at the Play Palace. He's just a funny guy, really. And of course, his villainy efforts are hilarious. He could learn a thing or two from Grimhilde.
Lady T might also be on that level. She doesn't possess any magic [unless you count Cinderella III], and doesn't seem exactly homicidal. But hey, you never know.